Curse

Snograt · May 20, 2008, 02:21 AM // 02:21

Ok, right there was the beginning and end of my overclocking experience.

Way too scary.

Admael · May 20, 2008, 04:36 AM // 04:36

Even if you're not part of the 45nm club, Snograt, you're very capable of hitting 1600 FSB on a QX6700.

It's perfectly safe! Change your FSB to 400 and your multiplier to 8. Change your vFSB to 1.3v and your vCore to 1.32v.

If it becomes unstable, increase the vCore in babysteps. Make sure you monitor your temps as well.

Cyb3r · May 20, 2008, 09:44 AM // 09:44

Like admael said aslong as you take not too huge steps and you got decent cooling snograt you're perfectly safe

however when you're new to the oc world i suggest ya use an older setup (pc) if ya still got one most of the times i only oc after the 2 to 3 year warranty expires (depends on which one it is and which cooling is in it) for example on my p4 i got watercooling sadly Zalman doesn't make new feet for cpu's for the Resirator 1 series anymore so that's reason 1 i can't hook it up 2 my gpu is hooked up to it (old nvidia 5950 ultra running in a stable oc) and i don't want to spend money for either another Watercooling or another gpu cooler.

However on high end air cooling i personally am fond of the Arctic Cooling Arctic Freezer FX series which are specially for the X2 series of Amd. There's a newer one out but not going to replace untill i buy a new cpu which will only be in a short while

Snograt · May 20, 2008, 10:02 PM // 22:02

Hmm, better un-hijack this thread. Again.

Psst - head over here http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10291163 for woeful tales of overclocking noobery.

Cyb3r · May 20, 2008, 11:22 PM // 23:22

yeh we kinda hijacked her/his post but since i'm from the benelux like him/her it's easier to talk you know?

Alexandra-Sweet · May 21, 2008, 06:52 AM // 06:52

I'm not going to over clock anything, I don't even know how to.

And the only dilemma I have left now is whenever to get that QX processor or not, I've tried searching for articles about cons/pros but the processor is so new they didn't do any intensive research about it. (Or I simply used the wrong keywords in Google)

Which Video Card I need to get (needs to be silent~)

And if OCZ is really that bad.

Snograt · May 21, 2008, 07:11 AM // 07:11

No, don't bother with a QX, especially if you're not going to overclock.

I bought one because I'm a noob and though "expensive - gotta be good, right?"
I don't think OCZ is that bad - this board is full of purists though, and if they say get different, I'd go with that

Admael · May 21, 2008, 07:22 AM // 07:22

Agreed. If you don't OC anything, then theres absolutely no reason to get QX. I recommend the Q9300, of if it's available in your area, the Q9450.

Most cards are silent. If anything you can use Rivatuner to set fan profiles that will automatically control your fanspeed based on temperature. Since it bothers you so much, stay away from dual slot cards. I recommend the 8800GT.

Brianna · May 21, 2008, 07:46 AM // 07:46

www.techreport.com might have an extensive in-depth review about the processor, that is what they do best. If they don't then they may have reviews of other models.

I should have got the single slot card too, but no turning back now!

Dark Kal · May 21, 2008, 09:02 AM // 09:02

A CPU comparison chart from Tom's Hardware: http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/p...max-9,369.html

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyb3r

Alexandra send me a pm and i'll help ya since i'm from belgium know a couple decent stores in the benelux that might help ya

I'm also from Belgium could you sent me your list of stores?

Edit: If you have a Northbridge fan I'd suggest unplugging it's power cable and seeing how noisy your system still is. I recently found out this little fan made a lot (and I mean A LOT) of noise on my system. It was the noisiest component on my system while also being one the most useless components since my Northbridge heatsink hardly gets warm. Why Gigabyte added this feature other than annoying me is beyond me.

Admael · May 21, 2008, 09:07 AM // 09:07

There's none of the newer processors on that list

Dark Kal · May 21, 2008, 09:20 AM // 09:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Admael

There's none of the newer processors on that list

Make sure you click "view all products" at the bottem of the page although it is a chart from 2007 so it's probably a little outdated.

Alexandra-Sweet · May 21, 2008, 12:24 PM // 12:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Kal

A CPU comparison chart from Tom's Hardware: http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/p...max-9,369.html

I'm also from Belgium could you sent me your list of stores?

So.. what exactly does that list show? Speed? Performance? Temperature? >.>

And these are the sites I use for all my computer needs~
http://www.alternate.nl/html/index.html (Dutch)
http://www.oksystems.eu/estore/ (very small Dutch shop)

Cyb3r · May 21, 2008, 02:08 PM // 14:08

well i mostly use www.tones.be as my webshop you can order in the whole benelux but don't know if they have delivery to the whole benelux(doubt it)

great prices and the best support i've had in the past 8 years, started going there after the support i got from the other store i used wasn't up to my liking anymore and the other one sadly closed cause they had alot of good oc and casemod stuff (and that's still one of my passions

)

and for the mb don't go with the cheaper boards that have a fan (i ordered a A8N premium (got a deluxe instead -_- (aka the one with the noizy northbridge))

oh and for silent psu's i recommend OCZ GameXstream, silent perfect amperage on it (only needed for sli or other heavy stuff (like dual 10000 rpm WD raptors in raid))
Got one after my silent Aerocool one died and they couldn't get it to replace it

But i'm running this one for ages now and it's perfect ^^

For the gpu's yeah either you're going to need to get new fans for them (stock is kinda loud @ 100 % speed, but you need those fans @ 100 % speed when gaming or the gpu tends to go rather hot) or use rivatuner like i do

And for the cpu you don't need the qx extreme series unless you want to OC
The other dual cores off Intel will give enough power to the pc (get a new fan though (i never run on stock coolers for my Cpu's)

zamial · May 21, 2008, 05:21 PM // 17:21

I have a very similar system as the 1 you speced out. But I have the ddr2 version.

That is a "enthusiast" mother board. Meaning designed for overclocking. While most people when they buy a new Porsche will drive the speed limit, but when no one is looking. . .

That being said, If you want silent, I suggest looking into replacing the stock case fans immediately. And use giant/ as big as you can get into the case, heat sinks.

suggestions:
cpu: thermalright IFX-14 and IFX-10.

I also would suggest using the 9800gt instead of the 9600.

At this point it will be case fans, PSU and vid card fans as well as case noise.

Currently there is no silent cooling options for the 9800, and the PSU fans you are basically stuck with. I DO NOT ENCOURAGE CHANGING THE PSU FANS, THERE ARE CAPACITORS INSIDE THAT CAN KILL YOU.

Case fans - this is entirly up to you the lower the db rating the quieter they will be. Do not sac quiet for low airflow.

Case noise - this is a biggie

It is now time to "suck it up, Nancy" if you want looks and pretty it will normally not = quiet.

I use the Antec 180/182 series of cases for these reasons:

They have sound dampening panels.
They have hard drive sound/vibration cushions.
They have more than enough room for expansion.
Rubber feet(less noise)
If possible get the 182 series.

cons of this case:
Its pretty big.
Its heavy and hard to move, only a con if you are moving the tower alot.(for a mobile computer get a laptop)

Currently the only thing that I can hear in my case is the leaf blower, oops I mean the stock vid card fans. I am looking at getting the dual orb(s) for my 8800gt's but we will see.

I also will tell you this, unless you trust your own plumbing skills I would stay away from water cooling. In my experience liquid and electronics do not play nice and it normally only takes 1 malfunction and all that is left is a really expensive, giant paper weight.

Brianna · May 22, 2008, 07:50 AM // 07:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by zamial

*Snipness* Currently there is no silent cooling options for the 9800, and the PSU fans you are basically stuck with. I DO NOT ENCOURAGE CHANGING THE PSU FANS, THERE ARE CAPACITORS INSIDE THAT CAN KILL YOU. *Snipness*

Haha, I changed the fan in my PSU cause it died. (Quite literally, grandpa was with me though.. cause he told me once that the PSU can kill you, but I didn't get much of an in-depth explanation.

Soldering Iron works wonders. Saved me a lot of money and I'm still alive.

On note to your post, I have been battling to get my PC quiet for a while, and it just simply boils down to slower fan speeds in my case.. and I believe my 8800GTS is making an incredibly lot of noise, I don't think I can really do anything about that aside from aftermarket cooling anyways..

But I listen to my music loud too, so it never bothers me, and it keeps things from getting too quiet at night.

Lord Sojar · May 22, 2008, 07:59 AM // 07:59

Alexandra, if you want silent, go with a liquid cooling solution. You are going to lose way too much graphical power going with a "silent solution" card. And most of those silent cards die pretty quickly, due to bad heat dissipation. Considering that I engineer the silicon that goes on those chips, I can tell you, they don't enjoy being smothered under a block of copper with no airflow above it or below it. And when silicon gets moody... all hell cometh.

Brianna · May 22, 2008, 08:04 AM // 08:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief

Alexandra, if you want silent, go with a liquid cooling solution. You are going to lose way too much graphical power going with a "silent solution" card. And most of those silent cards die pretty quickly, due to bad heat dissipation. Considering that I engineer the silicon that goes on those chips, I can tell you, they don't enjoy being smothered under a block of copper with no airflow above it or below it. And when silicon gets moody... all hell cometh.

Hmm yeah, those GFX cards that only have a heat sink always looked dubious to me, besides.. unless you have a really annoying card like mine, you usually won't hear it's fan. My 8600 is quiet, but it's also not high end.

Alexandra-Sweet · May 22, 2008, 10:31 AM // 10:31

Okay... after thinking a bit more I decided to change some stuff (AGAIN! been doing this for months now)

1. Water cooling.

2. Replace the QX9770 with it's little brother QX9650.

HOWEVER:

When overclocking a CPU does the FSB increase, or the CPU speed, or both?
And can I get the FSB of the QX650 to 1600MHz without turning my computer into a nuclear powerplant?

Dark Kal · May 22, 2008, 01:55 PM // 13:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alexandra-Sweet

So.. what exactly does that list show? Speed? Performance? Temperature? >.>

There are several benchmarks available for you to choose from. At the top of the page is a "Choose Benchmark" option with an arrow pointing down which allows you to select different benchmarks. At the bottem of the chart it says what each benchmark measures. The first one displays in how many seconds the CPU renders a specific image in 3D Studio Max. Simply put the higher the CPU is placed on the list the better.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brianna

grandpa was with me though.. cause he told me once that the PSU can kill you, but I didn't get much of an in-depth explanation.

Since when do old people know anything about computers anyhow? There's a shock hazard, if you have no clue what you're doing, but it's unlikely that it would kill you.